Intimidatingly intelligent commenter Tom took exception to my post comparing the Town Hall disruptors to Hitler's brownshirts - and posted a rather fascinating link when he did so.
While I still stand by my accusations about the loud, verbally disruptive Conservatives who attend these meetings - and the intimidating, gun-toting thugs who linger menacingly nearby - this revelation is simply too astonishing NOT to repost.
Was the most famous OBAMA=HITLER placard a Democratic plant?
It sounds almost too absurd to be true, but Conservatives insist that one of the disruptive events I was blogging about - a man turning up to a town hall rally with a poster of Obama with a Hitler mustache - might have actually been a fraud.
Democrat John Dingell held a Town Hall event last week, in which this angry protester was spotted with the enormous poster of Obama-as-Hitler. This was reported on MSM as proof that the Conservatives were engaging in dirty tactics to protest health care reform.
However, this same man was apparently spotted later in the day actually working with John Dingall's team - handing out fliers for the Democratic politician!
So was he a Democratic plant? Ordered to hoist a placard far more offensive than any the Conservatives themselves carried? There's anecdotal evidence to support that accusation here, on the link that Tom posted.
But what's perhaps more interesting than the accusation itself is the startling lack of proof.
Even in the words of the blogger Tom linked to; "If the link is out there," proving the accusation, "I haven't found it yet." It all apparently hangs off the word of a nameless couple who apparently attended the event - not exactly firm evidence.
But the fact that suspicion remains should remind us that the ol' 'Hitler' comparisons are used by both sides to attack each other - and perhaps that's something we should both stop doing.
For eight years, as Tom pointed out, President Bush was compared by Liberals to Hitler (which was stunningly absurd, since Hitler's primary attribute was being a powerful orator - and George Bush's patently wasn't!)
So surely it's just par for the course for the Conservatives to level the same accusation at Obama? (Who arguably did conjure up almost hypnotic support during his campaign.)
Well, even if it's not fair, they've insisted on doing so since before the election!
But why do I bring it up?
Because if Tom's right in the stern conclusion to his intricately researched comment, in which he argues that comparing the opposition to Nazis "shows which side has abandoned debate in favor of name-calling," surely both Conservatives and Liberals are equally guilty.
Perhaps Tom's comments suggest that we should 'step away from the Swastika' and start debating each other on the basis of facts from now on.
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Wednesday, August 19, 2009
Brownshirts Bulldoze Health Care Reform
These days, a lot of people seem to forget that Adolf Hitler was democratically elected.Not entirely voluntarily democratically elected - but voted into office by a majority of his peers nevertheless.
With the support of his thuggish supporters, the Sturmabteilung - better known to us as 'brownshirts' - he managed to bully and bulldoze his way into office through the use of propaganda, lies, political machinations and old-fashioned violence.
"All opposition must be stamped into the ground," was the Sturmabteilung's official motto - and they lived by it.
How exactly did the brownshirts forward Hitler's campaign? Well, let's examine some of their methods:
- Misinformation (distributing lies and false information to discredit opponents)
- Disruption (disorderly or violent interruption of the political process.)
- Intimidation (using the threat of violence to pressure politicians to capitulate.)
Why would the politicians of Germany grant Hitler such extraordinary and unprecedented power? Because they were too terrified not to.
On the morning of the vote, hundreds of heavily armed Sturmabteilung swarmed the Reichstag, sending a very clear and intimidating message to Hitler's opponents that the penalty for resisting his rise to power would be very serious.
In the end, all but one political party voted to grant Hitler control of Germany - and the 26 dissenters from the Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands party were promptly arrested for failing to capitulate.
Thus, through intimidation and the threat of violence, tyranny was born.
The truly scary thing?
We're witnessing those very same tactics being employed in America's health care debate - and they're working.
Modern-day brownshirts.
I identified the three main tactics of Hitler's Sturmabteilung earlier - misinformation, disruption and intimidation.
Pictures of misguided protesters taken from Looking at the LeftThey're very effective tactics - as we can see demonstrated today.
Misinformation: From Sarah Palin creating the fantasy of 'death panels' to House Republican Leader John Boehner warning about 'government encouraged euthanasia,' it seems the only commodity that's off limits in the conservative assault on 'Obamacare' is the truth.Although comparisons between modern politics and the Nazi movement are generally discredited by Godwin's Law and the principle of Reductio ad Hitlerum - perhaps they shouldn't be in this case.
Yet, watching protesters wave placards reading 'Obamacare is Arsenic for Seniors' and 'Obamacare is a Death Sentence' prove that this campaign of lies and misinformation is working.
Disruption: All it takes is a few angry voices to turn a Town Hall style political event into a madhouse, but like the Sturmabteilung before them, Conservatives are actively organising campaigns to maximise the disruption.
Leading health-care industry lobbyists - like disgraced hospital owner Rick Scott - have teamed up with grassroots conservative movements to coordinate disruptions specifically intended to stifle debate and 'rattle' Democratic politicians.
Whether it's forty people chanting anti-Obama slogans (and drowning out all other voices) or single showboaters holding up Obama posters defaced with a Hitler moustache, the effect is the same.
[Tom posted a link suggesting that the Obama/Hitler posters were staged by the Democrats - Editorial Bear]
Rational debate is slaughtered, politicians are silenced and the Conservative movement hobbles democracy still further.
Intimidation: But perhaps the most terrifying demonstration of Nazi tactics is the increasingly common sight of heavily armed Conservatives at health care debates. Carrying assault rifles, or pistols strapped to their hips, these right-wing activists are sending the same message that the Sturmabteilung did when they set up machine-gun posts outside the Reichstag. 'Defy us, and pay the penalty.'
There are 'gun rights' and then there's open intimidation of their political opponents - and increasingly, the intentions of the gun-carrying protestors are becoming very clear: If democracy doesn't provide them with the results they seek, they have other methods at their disposal.
[Is the 'Hitler' comparison overused by both liberals and conservatives? - Editorial Bear]
Conservatives want to paint an image of themselves as 'tea partiers' embodying the rebellious spirit which founded America - but have they crossed the line from 'rebellious spirit' into fascist thugdom? If not - how long will it take until they do?
One thing's for sure - if we don't do something about it, American health care reform will be decided by liars, angry mobs and gun-toting thugs - and that will benefit nobody.
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Friday, November 02, 2007
Sh*t of the Week
CARACAS (Reuters) - Congress passed President Hugo Chavez's proposal to scrap presidential term limits on Friday in a package of constitutional changes that Venezuelans are likely to approve in a referendum next month. Pro-Chavez lawmakers, who dominate the legislature, shouted "yes, yes," and chanted the president's political slogan "Fatherland, socialism or death" in approving the measures.
Wait a bloody second!
Haven't we been here before? Isn't this in Chapter One of Totalitarianism for Dummies?
I was never really 'on' Mr Chavez, but I've gone right off him now. I remember somebody else who ran a National Socialist party who 'convinced' the parliament to waive certain leadership limitations. Look what happened after that mess?
I know I wrote a long article about how he wasn't really all that bad, but Mr Chavez is running some horrible parallels with the man voted Time Magazine Man of the Year back in the thirties (you know, before he flattened Europe and exterminated twelve million inconvenient people.)
Appealing to the rough-and-ready great unwashed, laying claim to the nation's assets and now f*cking about with the constitution. Next out of the window, I reckon, is democracy - and he'll no doubt follow that up with a big push for rearmament (you know, just to kick-start the economy) and continue making more of all those delightful chums he's got (like that scumbag in Iran.)
Nope, Chavez has just toddled off the end of the plank as far as my benefit-of-the-doubt goes.
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